- Thursday, December 9, 2021

release-team@conference.openafs.org

Thursday, December 9, 2021< ^ >

kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl has set the subject to: openafs release team

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[16:59:26] <wiesand> Hello
[16:59:35] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> greetings
[16:59:40] <Cheyenne> Hello all
[17:00:24] <meffie> hello
[17:00:30] <mvita2> hello
[17:01:09] <wiesand> Looks like we're homing in on 1.8.8.1
[17:02:12] <wiesand> If we all agree, I'd merge 14831 14851 14852 (after removing the [TBC]) and 14828, then we tag?
[17:02:55] <meffie> +1 lgtm
[17:03:05] <mvita2> yup
[17:03:23] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> sounds good
[17:04:48] <Cheyenne> sounds good from here as well.
[17:05:32] <wiesand> working… feel free to on with other topics meanwhile
[17:06:14] <meffie> we can just watch over your shoulder. will that make it faster?
[17:06:26] <mvita2> umm
[17:06:33] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I am not sure that I have many other topics :-/
[17:06:33] <mvita2> we talked about this, Mike
[17:06:55] <mvita2> ;-)
[17:06:58] <Cheyenne> I'm doing a quick build against latest linux rc.. should have results in a few minutes
[17:07:23] <meffie> thanks Cheyenne.
[17:07:32] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> We did get one or two things in RT that are in effect asking for a
1.8.8.1 ...
I also got one unicast, but I think my reply to them was
misinterpreted.
[17:11:18] <meffie> i dont have anything new. i think it would be good to get the topic:gcc11-warnings merged so we can turn --enable-warnings back on for the new fedora builders.
[17:12:33] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> that's a good point
[17:12:58] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> only two changes, too, so should be pretty manageable ... I've left
that open in a tab to look at
[17:13:07] <meffie> thanks!
[17:14:55] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I also seem to have 14820 sitting open in a tab, and am not sure why
... maybe it was to remind me to remind Mark to do the rebase+squash
[17:15:12] <mvita2> looking
[17:15:53] <mvita2> sure, I can do that
[17:16:00] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> thanks!
[17:17:13] <mvita2> am I squashing all 3 as cwills asked?  or just 14820 and 14821?
[17:17:30] <Cheyenne> in 14822 ben suggested all 3
[17:17:39] <mvita2> okay
[17:17:59] <mvita2> np
[17:18:23] <Cheyenne> I think there are some "formatting" comments by Ben as well..
[17:19:07] <mvita2> it's always easier to squash than to separate, so I tend to favor submissions with more commits and squash later on request
[17:19:23] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> totally understandable
[17:20:01] <mvita2> "I blame my trainer."
[17:21:07] <meffie> gitlab has a feature to let contributor sqaush then merge after approval.
[17:21:28] <meffie> s/sqaush/squash/
[17:23:19] <meffie> (but we are not relaxed enough about commit messages for such a convenience. ;)
[17:23:58] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Yeah, atlassian bitbucket's git review thing can squash all the
commits during the merge like that, but the resulting commit message
is ... not great.  So we don't use it.
[17:24:05] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (at $dayjob, that is)
[17:24:24] <Cheyenne> 1.8.x + the pending commits builds cleanly against linux 5.16-rc4+
[17:24:56] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> looking at the gerrit dashboard sorted by last updated, I am not
seeing anything else I feel a need to talk about ... mostly it just
reminds me that I didn't do anything last week and should try to do
better :-/
[17:25:16] <wiesand> My smoke test of he current HEAD succeeded as well.
[17:25:16] <meffie> are you feeling better?
[17:25:27] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I am feeling better at least, yes
[17:25:42] <Cheyenne> (started build for master now..)
[17:25:47] <meffie> excellent news.
[17:26:19] <wiesand> Time to tag a1c3d3eeab02eb1919bb96c653c4e2aec9e3fdb9 as openafs-stable-1_8_8_1 ?
[17:26:35] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> okay, give me a couple minutes
[17:26:38] <meffie> i know i have quite a few gerrits that need to be revised.
[17:27:24] <Cheyenne> ditto
[17:27:42] <meffie> and need to catch up on reviews.
[17:28:51] <Cheyenne> looking at a general cleanup.. afsweb and JAVA removals have been pushed.. looking at some of the other obsolete stuff.. is there another "lets get rid of it" item?
[17:29:26] <mvita2> kdump?
[17:29:54] <Cheyenne> kdump removal has already been merged
[17:29:58] <wiesand> I'll have two weeks off starting sunday and spend them in a very quiet place. Probably even more quiet than usual thanks to Corona… I hope I'll make some real progress on 1.8.9 then.
[17:30:03] <mvita2> ah, right
[17:30:10] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (might be more than a couple...need to extend my key expiration)
[17:30:36] <meffie> what does the bottom of src/README say?
[17:30:42] <wiesand> src/WINNT? ;-)
[17:30:51] <mvita2> HAH!
[17:31:02] <Cheyenne> kauth, log, lwp, pam, tests, uss, vfsck
[17:31:45] <mvita2> inode fileserver…  (leaving just namei support)
[17:32:31] <Cheyenne> and.. master build just finished cleanly
[17:32:33] <meffie> we can kill lwp yet, but we should.
[17:33:18] <meffie> i mean we can kill src/lwp directory yet, until the bosserver changes are merged.
[17:33:31] <mvita2> s/can/can't/
[17:33:35] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> 1.8.8.1 tag pushed
[17:33:45] <Cheyenne> yay!
[17:33:49] <meffie> oh, yes we cant kill src/lwp directory yet.
[17:33:52] <mvita2> SUCCESS!
[17:34:05] <wiesand> Ben: it's not urgent. I'll have to do some shopping after the meeting anyway before I can continue unleashing the release.
[17:34:19] <wiesand> Ah, well. Thanks!
[17:34:27] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I think we had proposed moving stuff from src/lwp to src/kauth as a
finaly legacy resting place
[17:34:33] <meffie> kauth should just be moved to ARCHIVE or HISTORICAL, or some such imho.
[17:34:51] <mvita2> LIMBO
[17:35:12] <meffie> no, not limbo, because they are not coming back.
[17:35:17] <mvita2> heh
[17:36:08] <wiesand> I have a slight preference towards doing such changes when we're close to a new major release only.
[17:36:09] <meffie> vfsck could go i think.
[17:36:30] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> isn't vfsck tied to inode fileserver backend?
[17:36:37] <meffie> yes
[17:36:37] <mvita2> yes
[17:36:49] <wiesand> Unless everyone is fine pulling them into the current stable one.
[17:36:50] <mvita2> hence my inode warrant
[17:37:14] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Hmm, good point about scheduling such "sweeping changes"
[17:37:44] <meffie> i guess uss could be converted away from kauth? but it dont know anyone that wants it.
[17:38:18] <Cheyenne> I'm wondering if we might want to start "tagging" commits (either by a comment in commit message or part of the gerrit tag) as a "cleanup" | "bug" | "new feature"
[17:38:40] <meffie> and pam is kerberos4 only if i recall, so should be removed or archived
[17:38:43] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Everything kauth-adjacent depends on what exactly we need to stay
compatible with in order to keep using the "openafs" name/mark.
So someone would need to take a careful look at that agreement ...
which might involve finding a copy first?  I forget how well settled
that one was.
[17:39:13] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Cheyenne: That sounds like a good thing to put in the gerrit topic,
yes
[17:39:23] <mvita2> we could ask the foundation to look into that angle
[17:39:27] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> pam is kauth-only, I think.  So basically yes.
[17:39:47] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> The "openafs" name compat requirements is probably something the
foundation could look at, yes
[17:40:36] <meffie> tests is the test suite imported from arla. i dont think it is every exercised or updated.
[17:41:31] <meffie> s/every/ever/  (my fingers are not behaving today)
[17:41:51] <mvita2> "Mike blames his fingers."
[17:42:09] <meffie> i do. just like you blame your trainer :)
[17:42:34] <mvita2> "blame-shedding"
[17:43:33] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> On the off chance that someone was looking for more things to do
(haha), some of the inline comments in 14184 note potential new work,
like adding checks to some syscalls/pioctls that set global variables
so that we aren't updating them at runtime
[17:45:47] <mvita2> ugg, someone mentioned twiddle
[17:46:47] <meffie> good times.
[17:47:34] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Is there some background on twiddle that I should know about?
[17:47:54] <meffie> no, it just seems dodgy
[17:48:02] <mvita2> _seems_  ????
[17:48:15] <meffie> do i understate?
[17:49:01] <meffie> we can take a closer look at your comments ben
[17:49:26] <meffie> sounds like some changes would be useful here.
[17:49:43] <mvita2> reminiscent of the old Commodore BASIC "POKE" statement
[17:50:00] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> thanks
[17:50:14] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> and on that note, I think we're up to "any other topics for today?"
[17:50:34] <mvita2> I am still at work on security related stuff, Ben
[17:50:51] <mvita2> I hope to have ticket updates soon
[17:51:02] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Excellent; thanks
[17:52:00] <meffie> i have nothing else. thanks for the 1.8.8.1 release.
[17:53:09] <wiesand> Well, thanks for your contributions!
[17:53:16] Cheyenne needs to clean out my gerrit branches for items that have been merged..
[17:53:21] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> yes, thanks all around for 1.8.8.1
[17:53:24] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> motion to adjourn?
[17:53:29] <mvita2> second
[17:53:31] <meffie> oh, and we are going too lose our jabber creds soon, so i hope we can get jabber.openafs.org accounts.
[17:53:49] <meffie> sorry
[17:53:51] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Yeah, I have the mail about that.
[17:53:58] <meffie> thank you
[17:54:51] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Okay.  Have a good week, and thanks everyone :)
[17:54:53] <meffie> have a good week all!
[17:55:00] <wiesand> BTW does anyone know about Yadav? Did we drive /bore him away?
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[17:55:13] <mvita2> I don't know
[17:55:28] <mvita2> but he's probably just busy
[17:55:39] <wiesand> Anyway, thanks a lot everybody!
[17:55:54] <Cheyenne> Thanks.. everyone have a good week
[17:57:28] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> *waves*
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