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[16:01:41] <meffie> it this the right time?
[16:01:45] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I think so?
[16:01:52] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Europe doesn't hit DST for another couple weeks
[16:02:04] <cwills> looks about 10 o'clock here (MDT)
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[16:02:53] <wiesand> Hi. Yes, right time :)
[16:03:44] <wiesand> So, I saw the Linux 5.6 changes hit 1.8.x yesterday - Thanks!
[16:04:22] <wiesand> Alas, I wasn't able to work on/with them since.
[16:04:56] <wiesand> Chances are I'll be able to get 1.8.6pre2 ready over the weekend.
[16:05:14] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Hmm, just in time for me to have (hopefully) uploaded 1.8.6pre1 to
debian
[16:05:36] <wiesand> pre1 or pre2?
[16:06:45] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> pre1, since there are enough bugs being filed that I need to get
something ASAP
[16:07:36] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (Something is unhappy in testing but works fine for me in unstable, so
it's not automigrating, and that's now an RC bug; some of the arm
arches are still having trouble; there's a new italian translation;
etc.]
[16:07:51] <wiesand> would it help if I committed to get all pre2 stuff done and ask you for the tag by tomorrow evening CET?
[16:08:33] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> It would be nice if that happened, but please don't feel a need to
commit to doing so
[16:09:03] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (I think I will be too tired to do it tonight, so tomorrow evening CET
will be before I actually do anything with it)
[16:09:04] <wiesand> ok, I'll just try hard then ;-)
[16:09:14] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Thanks ;)
[16:11:00] <wiesand> So, 1.8.6pre2 "real soon now".
[16:11:10] <meffie> thank you
[16:12:50] <wiesand> I'll try to push the NEWS update and version strings changes right after the meeting. Would be nice to get a few +1s (or -1s) "soonish" then.
[16:13:38] <meffie> ok
[16:13:46] <wiesand> I think that's all I have on the stable series for today.
[16:14:26] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Not a whole lot to report on master from my end
[16:15:04] <meffie> cwills and adeason are looking at something on master.
[16:15:09] <cwills> I've been looking at a potential bug with one of the recent commits on master
[16:15:24] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> This week was quite crazy; we cancelled IETF 107 as an in-person event
and had meetings every morning to plan for the replacement virtual
stuff, in addition to our usual workload of reviewing/approving
documents.  I just started looking at a few changes this morning.
[16:15:34] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> which commits?
[16:16:04] <cwills> 13751 (master) 14082 (pending 1.8.x)
[16:16:30] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Ah, that could be "fun"
[16:17:05] <meffie> 13751 cd3221d353 Linux: use override_creds when available
[16:17:28] <cwills> I have a recreate environment and have pointed Andrew to it.
[16:18:08] <meffie> seems we falsely get EACCES errors
[16:18:28] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> "That's what the change was supposed to prevent"
[16:18:52] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> We did make some last-minute tweaks for basically aesthetic reasons;
is it hard to re-test with an earlier version of the patchset?
[16:19:29] <cwills> I should be able to do that fairly easily..
[16:19:57] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Obviously I don't expect it to matter, since I describe it as
"aesthetic reasons", but it's probably worth ruling out
[16:20:07] <cwills> noted
[16:20:52] <meffie> the nightly linux-rc buildbot caught the error, since we can build linux again. :)
[16:22:01] <meffie> i was paying attention to the linux-rc builder status.
[16:22:12] <cwills> +1 for Mike
[16:22:42] <meffie> -1 for not having a nightly smoke test on the non-linux-rc builders.
[16:23:53] <wiesand> ah, that's why I haven't seen a "buildbot success" after the Linux5.6 changes were merged?
[16:23:58] <meffie> yes
[16:24:21] <meffie> the failure is not related to linux5.6 in this case.
[16:24:29] <wiesand> got it, thnks
[16:24:58] <cwills> fails on several different platforms / kernel releases
[16:25:53] <wiesand> NB I'm supposed to work from home and only go to office/campus if absolutely required, for the next 2 weeks at least. I'm not sure yet whether this will help to find time for openafs or not…
[16:26:24] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> It seems like everyone is doing something like that, yes
[16:26:44] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (Apparently Seattle schools have closed until the end of not March,
but April)
[16:27:41] <cwills> My youngest son is in Seattle and has been working from home since the first outbreak in washington.
[16:28:12] <meffie> schools closed here too. i already work from home, and so been avoiding the coworking space.
[16:28:56] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Yeah, I guess I'm ahead of the times with my normal WFH setup
[16:29:23] <cwills> They are looking at canceling the "Bolder Boulder" which is a huge 10k race (I believe it's the largest in the US if not the world).
[16:29:29] <cwills> (memorial day)
[16:29:31] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Anyway, with IETF not meeting in Vancouver I no longer expect to miss
the next two meetings
[16:29:49] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Boston Marthon already got cancelled
[16:29:50] <wiesand> :)
[16:30:04] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (But Boston actually has a lot of confirmed cases already; not sure
about Boulder.)
[16:30:15] <cwills> Local university (CU Boulder) has moved everything to online courses
[16:30:35] <cwills> Boulder just got it's first confirmed case yesterday?
[16:30:40] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I hear a lot of colleges have been telling students "don't come back
after spring break"
[16:31:40] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Was there anything else to talk about than the EACCESS after the
override_creds changes?
[16:32:05] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Skimming the recent submissions there doesn't seem to be anything
super-critical
[16:32:10] <wiesand> Not from my side.
[16:32:28] <meffie> the sort of recent questions about building rpms has inspired me to update the wiki.openafs.org
[16:32:37] <cwills> I'll be trying the next linux 5.6-rc as soon as it shows up
[16:32:42] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Ooh, thanks Mike
[16:33:11] <meffie> i've been pushing changes to the 'how to build rpms'. i added info about building SRPMs and i'll be adding info about using mock.
[16:33:20] <meffie> leads me to a minor question.
[16:33:42] <meffie> what generates the .version file in the release source tarballs?
[16:34:24] <wiesand> good question…
[16:34:24] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> build-tools/make-release
[16:34:34] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> # Describe the tree
system("git describe --abbrev=4 $tagName > $tempDir/$name/.version");
[16:34:41] <wiesand> that was my guess, but I wanted to check ;-)
[16:35:01] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (TBH, my first reaction was "there's a .version file?")
[16:35:50] <meffie> ah, i looked at make-release, but then the eyes started to roll to the back of my head!
[16:35:51] <wiesand> is there an issue with .version?
[16:36:46] <meffie> just trying to understand why we set the LINUX_PKGVER in the configure.ac file. it does not look like it is used anywhere.
[16:37:36] <meffie> the makesprm.pl used sed to set the version strings.
[16:38:03] <cwills> It might have been used up until recently.. (trying to remember one of the patches I needed to do to fix a Redhat build)
[16:38:16] <meffie> i guess it is was used some time ago.
[16:39:17] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> looks like 6a27e228bac196abada96f34ca9cd57f32e31f5c removed several
uses
[16:39:37] <meffie> (i meant to say LINUX_PKGREL)
[16:40:44] <meffie> -src/packaging/RedHat/openafs.spec \
[16:40:49] <meffie> yes, that's the one!
[16:41:51] <meffie> autoconf generated the openafs.spec from openafs.spec.in  that is no longer true.
[16:42:02] <meffie> ok that clears it up.
[16:43:08] <meffie> i guess it is one less thing that needs be changed in the tree when making new releases. if we could do the same for macos and windows, could we avoid making commits to change version numbers?
[16:44:04] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> potentially
[16:44:24] <meffie> ok, i will not worry about it, just wondering.
[16:44:44] <meffie> that's all i have. thanks
[16:45:09] <cwills> b03f3e6101ff21a6f148c555c213c47678482a7b -- thought that LINUX_PKGREL looked familiar
[16:45:12] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Thanks for thinking about it!
[16:45:20] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I guess it's time for a motion to adjourn, then?
[16:45:31] <meffie> second.
[16:45:55] <cwills> everyone stay safe..
[16:45:57] <wiesand> Not having to issue those "make x.y.z" changes would help a little bit. But NEWS is orders of magnitude more work.
[16:46:29] <meffie> agreed.
[16:46:37] <wiesand> Motion sustained. Thanks a lot everybody!
[16:46:44] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Thanks everyone!
[16:46:51] <meffie> stay safe!
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