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[14:34:08] <meffie> Good morning.
[14:34:37] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> greetings
[14:37:42] <meffie> greetings!
[15:04:26] <meffie> shall we wait for stephan?
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[15:04:44] <meffie> oh, great!
[15:04:49] <wiesand> soorrieee
[15:05:28] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> It's still a new timeslot; you have a great excuse
[15:05:31] <meffie> welwome
[15:05:39] <meffie> welcome
[15:06:13] <wiesand> yes, I slightly overestimated what I could get done in those 2 hours
[15:06:53] <wiesand> so, I used that public holiday this week to merge what was ready for 1.8.4pre1
[15:07:31] <wiesand> Mike: thanks for the summary - and the work on NEWS, this start will help me get it done
[15:07:35] <meffie> horaay! i started a NEWS this morning.
[15:08:58] <wiesand> review of 13638 and 13639  would be appreciated
[15:10:12] <wiesand> open items from the wish list are 13598 and 13599
[15:11:12] <wiesand> Mark pushed new patch sets for those recently, but I haven't looked into them yet
[15:11:36] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I think they changed quite a bit since the last rev of them
[15:12:03] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (Though the first one ended up getting a lot simpler!)
[15:12:09] <meffie> nice.
[15:12:40] <wiesand> and 13641 looks like a fix worth including in 1.8.4?
[15:14:08] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> My first impression is that it is more hoisekeeping-like than
race-fixing, but I could be wrong
[15:14:17] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> *housekeeping-like
[15:14:56] <wiesand> ok, thanks
[15:15:10] <meffie> i dont recall that patch.
[15:15:34] <wiesand> the change is brand new…
[15:17:19] <wiesand> that's what I have on the stable series today
[15:17:59] <wiesand> tomorrow will be way too hot to slave in the garden, so I'm planning to spend some time on openafs
[15:18:23] <meffie> mark must have noticed the issue he describes in 13641 while we was working on 13642 (1.6.x only)
[15:19:16] <wiesand> maybe - and yes, 13642 looks like a good reason for me to tend to 1.6.x again already…
[15:20:33] <meffie> 13642 was noticed because a fireserver had too many calls waiting counted, even though no calls were waiting.
[15:20:57] <meffie> it never went back down to zero, as i understand.
[15:22:20] <wiesand> Doesn't sound too serious, though it could cause false alarms from monitoring
[15:22:24] <meffie> it is not super critical, but can be annoying.
[15:22:25] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Hmm, looking more closely at 13641 it does not seem as "mundane
housekeeping-y" as I first thought
[15:23:22] <wiesand> ok
[15:24:32] <wiesand> I'm not quite sure I understood David Howells' mail regarding that afs-filesystem package
[15:25:13] <meffie> i thought he proposed a package to make the /afs directory?
[15:25:21] <meffie> (on fedora)
[15:25:53] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Yeah, it looks like a package that causes the  /afs directory to exist
and nothing else
[15:26:30] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Trying to wrap that directory creation into some other package
(e.g., an openafs one) supposedly creates issues when that package
needs to get upgraded, though I have  no clue about the technical
details
[15:28:40] <wiesand> however, *if* afs-filesystem ever needs an update, it will fail epically
[15:30:51] <wiesand> reading that pagure.io issue now, feel free to go on with master/1.9/buildbot/whatever…
[15:31:03] <wiesand> NB the windoze builders are sad again
[15:31:13] <meffie> ok, i'll look.
[15:32:22] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I put a +2 review on an rxgk-phase1 change this morning
[15:32:39] <meffie> hooray!
[15:33:37] <meffie> seems we are getting closer to rxgk-phase1 merged on the master branch?
[15:33:55] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> painfully slowly, but yes
[15:35:08] <meffie> great. i think rxgk-phase1 plus adeason's rx perf improvements would make for a nice 1.9.0 release :)
[15:35:33] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Are the rx perf improvements already merged or is there a gerrit topic
I should look at?
[15:36:19] <meffie> not merged yet; topics are
[15:36:47] <meffie> sendmmsg, recvmmsg
[15:37:31] <meffie> andrew will be showing some benchmarking of these next week at the workshop
[15:38:18] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Ah
[15:39:22] <meffie> (that would be on wednesday next week)
[15:39:43] <wiesand> I'd *love* to see linux-native-mounts in 1.9.0 as well
[15:39:56] <meffie> ah, yes, that's a good idea.
[15:40:32] <meffie> it would make that easier for people to try, and get some feedback
[15:40:39] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> true
[15:41:04] <meffie> if i recall, it's optional, so they can turn it on to try.
[15:41:19] <meffie> afsd -automount
[15:42:19] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> My recollection matches yours
[15:42:49] <meffie> that sounds like a realistic wish list for 1.9.0?
[15:43:56] <wiesand> sounds like a plan to me
[15:46:05] <meffie> would you guys be available to video/audio conference next week to join me for the "release team report" on wednesday?
[15:46:33] <wiesand> though 1.9.0 would make sense with just rxgk-phase1 too, and the other features could go into a later 1.9.x
[15:46:35] <meffie> (that would be wed at 9:15 EDT)
[15:47:09] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> wiesand: that's true, we can put other things in later 1.9.x versions
[15:47:14] <meffie> yes.
[15:47:22] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> meffie: I think I am going to end up being there in person
[15:47:35] <meffie> Hooray!
[15:47:51] <wiesand> yes, that would be great
[15:47:53] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (but still owe Margarete an email reply, so you might steal my thunder
if you mention it)
[15:48:12] <meffie> thanks stephan. i sort out the call-in info.
[15:48:20] <meffie> i will
[15:48:58] <wiesand> er, I meant it would be great if Ben would be there
[15:49:04] <meffie> kaduk: ok.
[15:50:01] <meffie> wiesand: ah, ok. if you have time to listen or join via video conf for any or all of the sessions, i'll see what i can do.
[15:50:42] <wiesand> as for me, I was invited to a local workshop on the security of the control systems for this little toy: https://www.cta-observatory.org
[15:51:06] <wiesand> and it is wednesday and thursday next week…
[15:51:39] <meffie> Neat. I think that is where one of the founders of SNA is working now.
[15:52:59] <wiesand> and I have no final agenda yet - I will find time to listen, but there will be a few slots when I don't
[15:53:18] <meffie> ok, thanks.
[15:56:15] <meffie> regarding buildbot: i took some time to look at the build warnings/errors on fedora 30
[15:56:28] <wiesand> (one reason it's a local event is that I preferred not to travel to Bologna or so…)
[15:57:15] <meffie> looks like fedora 30 ships with gcc9.x which gives us some more warnings. i'll need to try to fix them and push some gerrits.
[15:58:14] <meffie> it also looks like gcc9.x has an error on the 1.6.x branch, so that will not build even when --enable-checking is off. will need to look into that.
[15:58:57] <meffie> hopefully it's something simple we can fix before/during the workshop.
[16:00:19] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I hope so, yes
[16:00:20] <wiesand> F30 users should use 1.8.x though IMHO
[16:00:32] <meffie> oh, good point :)
[16:01:09] <meffie> i did not think that through.
[16:01:11] <wiesand> which doesn't mean it's not high time for me to get 1.6.x into shape again already…
[16:02:02] <meffie> (the error was a missing prototype if i recall, so i think it's not too bad)
[16:02:26] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> In other news, I pushed a one-line changed version of 13501 just now,
if Mark and/or Mike want to look
[16:02:37] <meffie> ok
[16:05:08] <meffie> looks good to me. mark is out today.
[16:05:31] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Ah.  Thanks for looking (and why is mark still in the jabber room if
he's out?)
[16:05:54] <meffie> (good question:)
[16:07:56] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I  don't have much news for master today; it was a busy week and I
just started looking at stuff earlier this  morning.
[16:08:02] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> So maybe that means we are done?
[16:08:12] <meffie> yes. thank you!
[16:09:06] <wiesand> Fine, let's adjourn. Thanks a lot and have a nice weekend!
[16:09:22] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Thanks; you, too!
[16:09:39] <wiesand> And I'll strive hard to get 1.8.4pre1 out in time for the workshop…
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