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[13:00:52] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Greetings
[13:01:41] wiesand joins the room
[13:01:55] <wiesand> Greetings back
[13:03:04] <wiesand> I'm working on 1.8.4pre1
[13:03:22] <wiesand> Current step: find the path conflicts
[13:03:30] <wiesand> Next step: rebase
[13:03:39] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Sounds exciting.  I mean tedious.  Er, both
[13:03:56] meffie joins the room
[13:04:13] <meffie> good morning.
[13:04:15] <wiesand> Looks like the better part of what has been pulled up does need a rebase…
[13:05:01] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> :-/
[13:05:48] <mvita> greetings
[13:06:03] <wiesand> When you're about to do a bunch of work and would prefer me not to clog the buildbot queues for a while, let me know a bit before ;-)
[13:06:05] meffie leaves the room
[13:06:10] <wiesand> Hello Mike & Mark
[13:06:27] <mvita> Hello Stephan!
[13:07:59] <wiesand> I have 11629 on the 1.8.4 wish list, but it seems to be dragging on?
[13:09:06] <mvita> Oh, Mike mentioned something about that yesterday
[13:09:38] <mvita> but I see he's ducked out
[13:09:44] meffie joins the room
[13:09:57] <mvita> I wasn't expecting to see you today Mike
[13:09:57] meffie leaves the room
[13:10:15] <mvita> he's at PyCon
[13:10:22] <wiesand> ah
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[13:11:11] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I see 11629 depends on 13488, and I thought I had made some remark
about being unsure if we want to add that much output to every
fileserver startup (i.e., at loglevel 0), but apparently if I did, it
wasn't in gerrit.
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[13:11:12] <wiesand> No hurry, just checking the list of things foreseen for 1.8.4, and 11629 was discussed as such
[13:11:40] <wiesand> Also already discussed was the solaris-nonembed-vnode stack
[13:11:45] <mvita> I think he was planning to give it some attention soon
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[13:12:29] <wiesand> I'm not sure we've talked about remove-automake - is there general agreement that we want that in 1.8.x (and even 1.6.x)?
[13:12:51] <wiesand> openafs-stable-1_8_x (remove-automake) <https://gerrit.openafs.org/#/q/status:open+project:openafs+branch:openafs-stable-1_8_x+topic:remove-automake>
[13:12:52] <mmeffie> (sorry spotty network)
[13:13:37] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> IIRC, solaris-nonembed-vnode was fairly low risk and does help out
that population of people on the solaris minor release in question
[13:13:40] <mvita> i'm not too familiar with the automake stack
[13:14:21] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> w.r.t. remove-automake, I want to say there was some actual motivator
about version skew or maybe a new automake having finally removed some
deprecated stuff that we use, or something.  I'd have to double-check
[13:15:39] <mmeffie> the issue is strange warnings during the build.
[13:16:00] <mmeffie> which are basically "false alarms"
[13:16:32] <mvita> oh, the "missing" file
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[13:16:47] <wiesand> yes, seen that too
[13:17:01] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> the "missing" file, that totally never causes confusion in discussion
about it
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[13:18:19] <mmeffie> also, that stack includes removal of deprecated / old autoconf macros.
[13:19:10] <wiesand> The other changes already pulled up to 1_8_x I still have to look at in more detail. But most if not all should probably make 1.8.4pre1.
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[13:19:41] <wiesand> Review review review
[13:20:51] <mvita> aye aye captain
[13:20:51] <wiesand> Especially if there are objections words of caution, I'd appreciate it if they could be raised within the next week or so.
[13:22:12] mmeffie joins the room
[13:22:44] <mmeffie> ok
[13:22:59] <wiesand> And if possible, I'd like to clear the backlog before further path conflicts are created by new pullups.
[13:24:11] <mmeffie> fyi, i moved the 1.6.x gerrit listing on wiki.openafs.org to a separate page, called "old stable"
[13:24:40] <wiesand> thanks
[13:25:01] <mmeffie> so, there are 3 pages now; master, 1.8.x, and 1.6.x. should be updated once per day with "open" gerrits in number order.
[13:25:21] <wiesand> helpful
[13:26:02] <mmeffie> ok, thanks.
[13:28:55] <wiesand> That's mostly what I had for today. But if there are more wish list items for 1.8.4, please bring them up soon (preferably now ;-)
[13:29:43] <mvita> okay.  I've been heads down on "interesting" salvager and volserver issues this week
[13:31:04] <mvita> If I can get those addressed I will do some 1.8.x reviews
[13:32:05] <wiesand> thanks
[13:32:33] <wiesand> on to master/1.9.x?
[13:33:05] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Not much to report here, but not zero, either.
[13:33:45] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I looked at a couple of the early commits in the linux-native-mounts
topic (cleanup on background operations, mostly), and want to
double-check with Andrew on one point before getting that early
cleanup in.
[13:34:14] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I'm currently looking at the bosserver-no-client-dirs topic, but got
confused for a while by some of the stuff in afsconf_ClientOpen() (I
think I have it figured out now, at least)
[13:35:18] <mmeffie> sorry.
[13:35:19] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> It looks like Andrew updated another thing or two that I should look
at again, and we got a new change proposed for ppc64le-linux support
[13:35:48] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I'm pretty sure the confusion was all my fault; I just needed to read
a bit farther into the change
[13:37:03] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I pulled up 13560 just now
[13:37:38] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> It looks like the rpm spec that openafs-kmodtool produces will have
the same version-dependent dependency on elftools-devel that the main
spec does, but the commit message doesn't say anything about that.
[13:37:55] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (Er, sorry, "pulled up" was a poor choice of terms.  I opened it up in
my browser.)
[13:38:00] <mmeffie> ah.
[13:38:23] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I am mostly inclined to not care and just merge it as-is, but while
I've got you here...
[13:39:21] <mmeffie> i think it is ok.
[13:39:58] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> works for me, unless Stephan wanted to say something
[13:40:45] <mmeffie> the amount of conditionals in the spec files is not nice, but that's how it is currently done. cheyenne has been thinking about the spec files recently. maybe we can have something better in the future.
[13:41:12] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Something to look forward to, I guess.
[13:42:23] <mmeffie> (he has a koji system set up here to build openafs using the spec files, and there have been some pain points with openafs.spec.in :)
[13:42:52] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I don't think I have much else for today.  The movers come next week,
so I may not be online.
[13:43:26] <wiesand> Where are you moving?
[13:43:35] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> greater Seattle
[13:44:02] <wiesand> Quite a distance
[13:44:12] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Yup, it'll be an adventure
[13:45:07] <wiesand> My lesson learned: bite the bullet, pay pros to do everything!
[13:45:21] <mmeffie> my brother lives in Seattle. nice location.
[13:45:43] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Yeah, this is our first time hiring movers; I'm looking forward to not
being sore the next day
[13:45:55] <mvita> +1
[13:45:59] <wiesand> smart move
[13:46:19] <mmeffie> you should have just asked, i would have brought the mini-van ! :)
[13:46:34] <mmeffie> yes, use the pros.
[13:48:13] <wiesand> So, best of luck with your move. I really don't envy you!
[13:48:31] <mvita> Ben, I have a quick unrelated question about Debian/Ubuntu OpenAFS packages - it looks like the binaries are stripped but they have a debuglink
[13:48:33] <wiesand> Anything else to discuss today?
[13:48:45] <mmeffie> no thank you.
[13:49:04] <mvita> is the  debuginfo file included in the packaging, or is that a separate package?
[13:49:23] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> And my wife's family is in Seattle, so we know how nice it is out
there
[13:49:41] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I think the debuginfo is a separate package
[13:50:06] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> There was some work "recently" (past year or so?) to get a lot more
debuginfo packages spun up and automatically generated
[13:50:18] <mmeffie> you mean for debian?
[13:50:23] <mvita> okay, thanks, I'll ask the customer if he can give me matching debuginfo
[13:50:35] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> for debian, yes
[13:50:57] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Sorry, the doorbell rang so I had stepped away for a couple minutes,
and had to catch up to the conversation
[13:51:28] <mmeffie> ah, ok. thanks. good luck with the move. have a good weekend!
[13:51:32] <wiesand> I have no doorbell:)
[13:51:35] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Thanks!
[13:51:41] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Have a good weekend everyone!
[13:51:46] <mvita> bye
[13:51:51] mmeffie leaves the room
[13:51:51] <wiesand> Thanks a lot everybody!
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