- Friday, July 6, 2018

release-team@conference.openafs.org

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[12:42:55] <meffie> good morning.
[12:56:15] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> You're in early ;)
[12:58:48] <meffie> yes, for once :)
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[12:59:53] <meffie> sadly, i just noticed the bug i reported in rt.central.org #134589
[13:00:10] <mvita> morning
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[13:00:29] <meffie> dont know why yet. maybe something to do with continuation blocks
[13:00:40] <wiesand> hi
[13:00:41] <mvita> I too posted some stuff in rt.central.org this morning
[13:00:53] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I saw that mail, yes.
[13:01:15] <mvita> okey
[13:01:43] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Though RT itself is being pretty slow for me.
[13:01:59] <mvita> breakfast today is wild mulberries and cream
[13:02:06] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Sounds fun
[13:02:22] <mvita> it is until you hit a twig
[13:06:37] <wiesand> sorry, distracted by RT and the phone
[13:06:48] <wiesand> I'll get the keys later today
[13:07:54] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Are these the keys I think they are?
[13:08:12] <wiesand> For my new home, yes
[13:08:34] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> happy dance!
[13:08:35] <mvita> AHHH, now I see
[13:08:41] <mvita> excellent
[13:08:41] <meffie> oh, i thought you meant ssh keys
[13:08:54] <wiesand> no :)
[13:09:14] <mvita> I thought you meant _signing_ keys
[13:09:18] <meffie> or /usr/afs/etc/KeyFile keys :)
[13:09:21] <wiesand> no:)
[13:09:38] <mvita> <more coffee>
[13:10:05] <wiesand> ok, Mark's RT looks pretty bad at first glance
[13:10:50] <mvita> I'm still surveying, those are just what I've found so far.
[13:11:04] <mvita> it's a target-rich environment, as we say.
[13:11:25] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> It's not much fun, trying to find all the targets there.  So thank you
for perservering.
[13:12:00] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> 134573 is probably scarier, though.
[13:12:56] <mvita> can't see it
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[13:13:27] <mvita> unless you meant 134574, which is what I thought we were discussing ?
[13:14:16] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> That is what we were discussing, and I meant the other one.
I will figure out viewing permissions later.
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[13:15:31] <wiesand> right, looks scary - luckily it doesn't affect my site and probably many others
[13:15:44] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> true
[13:16:18] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Anyway, we should definitely work on this stuff, but perhaps there is
not much to talk about (yet?) during this meeting.
[13:16:53] <mvita> Ben, was it okay that I threw the new patches into the existing ticket rather than opening a new one?
[13:17:27] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I think so.
[13:19:58] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> So, any 1.6.x topcs?
[13:20:16] <mvita> no, I can't think of any
[13:20:16] <wiesand> I'm wondering whether 134573 can be mitigated by packet filtering
[13:20:43] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I mostly expect it could be.
[13:21:02] <wiesand> And sadly, no 1.6 topics here either. Although those RTs will become so
[13:21:09] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> *nods*
[13:21:41] <mvita> Please let me know if I can be of any help on either one.
[13:21:55] <wiesand> I'll pull up those rpmbuild fixes/enhancements to 1.8 soon.
[13:22:10] <wiesand> I'll also have a look what else was merged on master lately.
[13:22:29] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> mvita: I will, thanks!
[13:23:03] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Andrew already pulled up one, as 13243.
[13:23:04] <meffie> thank you for the rpmbuild fixes
[13:23:06] <wiesand> And it looks like I really ought to get out 1.6.23pre1 now. Will bump up the priority next week.
[13:23:17] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Though it's a little unclear to me whether it needs to go into 1.8.1.
[13:23:29] <wiesand> The fix should.
[13:23:47] <wiesand> The others two are nice to have, admittedly.
[13:24:56] <wiesand> but 13238 unbreaks rpm builds
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[13:25:42] <wiesand> Any news from the Linux-next front?
[13:25:58] <mvita> a little
[13:26:30] <mvita> we are still waiting for the GPL symbol problem to get merged in upstream Linux
[13:26:35] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Er, I was asking about the "Detect NULL page during write_begin"
[13:26:36] <mvita> Joe pinged them yesterday
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[13:27:43] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Also, apparently I screwed up the 1.8.1pre2 web change, and also
screwed up checking that it worked after it went live.
[13:27:49] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> So, now there is 13244.
[13:29:55] <mvita> oh, sorry, I missed that on my review.
[13:30:14] <wiesand> me too :-(
[13:31:47] <mvita> is there a simple way to test openafs-web changes?
[13:32:40] <wiesand> (no)
[13:32:41] <mvita> maybe just opening pages as files in a browser would work…
[13:32:48] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I don't know of a great way, no.
[13:34:04] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> So did anyone have thoughts on 13243 for 1.8.1?
[13:34:20] <mvita> not yet
[13:34:31] <mvita> I keep getting distracted ;-)
[13:34:33] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> okay.  Just wasn't sure if we all got distracted :)
[13:34:40] <wiesand> sure, you can open main.html and release/x.y.z/index.html in the brwoser
[13:35:17] <meffie> well, 13243 is not a regression, right? it could be picked up in 1.8.2
[13:35:27] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> That was my thinking, right.
[13:35:43] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I just didn't know if it was particularly impactful, as (e.g.)
dslot-einter is.
[13:35:59] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> But dslot-einter is probably not getting into 1.8.1, either, at this
point.
[13:36:10] <meffie> the site that reported the crash for this was stress testing to trigger this.
[13:36:13] <mvita> 13243 judged mostly harmless +1
[13:41:59] <mvita> <fooling around with openafs-web?
[13:42:53] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> yeah
[13:44:03] <mvita> me too
[13:44:43] <meffie> speaking of openafs-web... :)
[13:45:17] <wiesand> oh no
[13:45:54] <meffie> i had converted all of that to jykell at one point. i wonder if we can find a way to use that or something maybe easier.
[13:46:25] <meffie> then we can kill the old frames
[13:47:14] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Might be useful.  ("static site" means "javascript not required",
right?)
[13:47:20] <meffie> yes,
[13:47:30] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I don't expect to be able to put real time into reviewing or
deploying, though.
[13:47:46] <meffie> here's a test site:  http://openafs.meffie.org
[13:48:06] <wiesand> it will require changes to the tooling, including the remctl'ed script at g.c.o.
[13:48:13] <meffie> that uses the theme ken did.
[13:48:14] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> It's like it entered the 2000s or something
[13:48:44] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I'll see if I can remebmer to pester jhutz about his availability
[13:49:05] <meffie> once we converted the tools, i can find a person to do the style stuff
[13:49:18] <mvita> it looks sharp
[13:49:51] <meffie> we dont have to use jykell, that's popular tho. i'd perfer something with simpler that doesnt require ruby :)
[13:50:32] <wiesand> the look is nice
[13:50:44] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (my search for jykell found jekyll)
[13:50:49] <mvita> meffie is allergic to hipster languages
[13:51:18] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I'm sure we could find you some classic PHP if we tried.
[13:51:30] <meffie> my idea is to first convert the tooling to use markdown, then find someone to do the style), sorry yes jekyll
[13:52:28] <meffie> if we can convert to a "standard" tool, then i could find someone to properly style it.
[13:53:44] <meffie> here's the markdown that generates the test one: https://github.com/meffie/openafs.org
[13:54:43] <meffie> (select raw to see the raw text in github)
[13:56:40] <meffie> i feel it could be done in stages and not be disruptive.
[13:57:33] <wiesand> sounds like a plan, but frankly I doubt that it will have sufficient priority anytime soon to actually happen
[13:57:58] <meffie> (btw mvita, ruby is no longer a hipster language; elixir is the new hotness)
[13:58:36] <mvita> those hipsters are a moving target
[13:58:41] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Always
[13:58:43] <meffie> yes i know, these pages were done back in 2014
[13:59:10] <wiesand> I noticed ;-)
[13:59:28] <meffie> but if we can fix the tooling somehow, i can convert the content and get someone to do a nice style.
[13:59:58] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Right
[14:00:12] <meffie> and there's better off the self stuff now compared to 2014 :)
[14:00:32] <mvita> shelf
[14:00:37] <meffie> shelf yes.
[14:00:57] <meffie> any, end rant :)
[14:01:08] <mvita> we have another mtg starting now….
[14:01:11] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> A rant worth hearing occasionally
[14:01:47] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> anyway, given that I just sent the announcement yesterday, I assume we
don't have more 1.8.1 news.  (Well, I can note that I uploaded to
debian, which doesn't have to wait for the mail...)
[14:03:11] <mvita> thank you Ben.
[14:04:42] <meffie> thank you ben
[14:05:42] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> shall we move on to master, then?
[14:05:51] <mvita> sure
[14:05:54] <meffie> yes
[14:06:20] <wiesand> yes
[14:06:37] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I saw Joe's linux418 change, I just forget if we have a convention for
m4 indentation with multiline #include statements
[14:07:06] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> The particular chunk in question seems to be right between two
different styles entirely, for extra fun.
[14:07:27] <mvita> I think there might be more needed for timespec, but I haven't had a chance to dig into reviewing that yet
[14:08:13] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Ah.
[14:08:41] <mvita> other things keep popping up
[14:08:42] <meffie> our m4 styles are kind of all over the place
[14:08:47] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (One quick 1.8-ish item, Mike still holds a -1 on 13153, but I think
that was just to hold until we got rid of the "code = error" in the
log directives)
[14:09:15] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> >  our m4 styles are kind of all over the place
Yeah.  I guess I should probably not worry too hard about it.
[14:09:33] <meffie> oh, i thought the 'code = error' thing was fixed?
[14:09:44] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Right!
[14:09:48] <meffie> i recall working on it :)
[14:10:58] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I guess also on the m4 style front, the "split off krb5 and gss
checks" change in the rxgk stack has some trailing whitespace.  And
that we generally do care about, I think.
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[14:11:14] <wiesand> yes, the fix is in 13218
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[14:15:19] <meffie> ok thanks wiesand.
[14:15:58] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I don't have a whole lot else for master.  Jeff reminded me of a few
outstanding changes, like 13165, 12942, and 6895
[14:17:07] <wiesand> I'm afraid I'll have to run soon
[14:17:20] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> It sounds like we're probably wrapping up, anyway
[14:17:31] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (KEYS KEYS KEYS)
[14:17:44] <meffie> gpg keys?
[14:17:55] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Just vicariously excited for Stephan
[14:18:00] <meffie> hey
[14:18:13] <wiesand> not as much as me, possibly
[14:18:57] <meffie> fyi, will be traveling next week so may not be able to attend the next meeting.
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[14:19:20] <wiesand> thanks for the heads up
[14:19:41] <wiesand> ok, let's adjourn (KEYS KEYS KEYS)
[14:19:46] <meffie> i'll try to do some reviews anyway :)
[14:19:55] <meffie> have a good weekend
[14:20:09] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I will be travelling later in the day next week, so may also miss
[14:20:29] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Have a good weekend, all
[14:20:34] <wiesand> Thanks a lot everybody!
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[14:21:59] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Yes, thanks everyone!
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