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[13:58:51] <wiesand> Welcome Harald
[14:01:30] <wiesand> Hello. Anyone here?
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[14:04:00] <meffie> good morning
[14:04:23] <wiesand> Hello Mike
[14:04:40] <wiesand> Looks like our new timeslot isn't working all that well …
[14:05:00] <meffie> please excuse my tardiness,
[14:05:38] <meffie> i think this timeslot will be better actually.
[14:06:22] <wiesand> Anyway, I think next is a minimalistic 1.6.22.1 release a.s.a.p.?
[14:06:28] <meffie> first question, except for the typo on the date, were the notes ok?
[14:06:50] <wiesand> yes, very useful. Thanks!
[14:07:16] <meffie> ok, great! i'll make it a habit. please remind me if i "forget"
[14:08:08] <wiesand> The "must haves" for 1.6.22.1 are https://gerrit.openafs.org/#/q/status:open+project:openafs+branch:openafs-stable-1_6_x+topic:linux-4.14 and 12724 ?
[14:08:13] <meffie> 1.6.22.1 with just the gerrits to build a libafs for linux 4.14?
[14:09:18] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I'm here; got distracted reading something else.
[14:09:42] <wiesand> Mike: yes, soemthing like that
[14:10:12] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> That sounds like the plan, I think.
[14:10:33] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Unless Mark is going to show up and tell us that he's late to the
meeting because he was pushing a new getcwd change or something.
[14:11:09] <wiesand> 12759 still carries a -1 ?
[14:11:19] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (You saw that I added a new commit to the linux-4.14 label last night,
right?)
[14:11:28] <wiesand> That addresses it?
[14:11:52] <wiesand> (12810)
[14:12:02] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> 12797 is supposed to address the -1.  12810 addresses the bug in 12797.
[14:12:17] <meffie> 12797 fixes 12759
[14:12:50] <wiesand> Ah, ok ;-)
[14:13:14] <meffie> yes, at least we have some experience with these patches :)
[14:14:00] <wiesand> So, that stack + 12724 + NEWS + version strings = 1.6.22.1 ?
[14:14:49] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> 12740 ought to be harmless as well, and would make the, uh, suse (?)
people happier
[14:16:04] <wiesand> Fine. The 4.14 stack + 12724 + 12740 + NEWS + version strings = 1.6.22.1  ?
[14:16:57] <wiesand> There was a discussion regadring glibc no longer providing the sunrpc stuff, but I don't remember the conclusion
[14:17:49] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> 12800 (on master) is supposed to resolve that, but it's not merged yet
[14:18:03] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> there's probably not too much rush, since glibc version adoption is
somewhat slow
[14:18:40] <meffie> +1 on 12740
[14:19:05] <wiesand> Ok, lets' postpone 12800 to a later release
[14:19:38] <meffie> sounds good
[14:20:07] <wiesand> Regarding getcwd, I'm upset by that "give me a release fixing it. now" pushing
[14:20:20] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I am, too.
[14:20:50] <wiesand> Tends to make me rather more stubborn about requiring a prerelease phase…
[14:20:51] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Do you want me to reply to his email to that effect?
[14:21:25] <wiesand> Do you think it would help? I don't, so no need to be rude ;-)
[14:22:34] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I'd have to look at his mail again and think about it.
[14:23:07] <wiesand> I decided several times not to reply yet…
[14:23:10] <meffie> was this on a mail list?
[14:23:24] <wiesand> Not the last ones…
[14:25:21] <wiesand> Mark was one of the addressees
[14:27:37] <wiesand> Anyway, I'm inclined to not include the getcwd fix as it is w/o either thorough testing or an explantion even I can understand why the locking issue is completely harmles, and preferrably both.
[14:27:48] <wiesand> I think it's 1.6.23 fodder.
[14:28:27] <meffie> seems like it should be a prerelease, given the number of commits involved.
[14:28:42] <wiesand> For 1.6 it's just one…
[14:28:43] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> You mean 1.6.22.1pre1?
[14:28:50] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> or getcwd?
[14:29:01] <meffie> 1.6.23pre1
[14:29:25] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Ah.  Yes, I agree.  Not so much on commit count, but on invasiveness.
[14:30:15] <meffie> we could also include topic:highsierra
[14:30:43] <wiesand> And I think merging 12796 on 1.6 before the stack on master was merged is a nogo too.
[14:31:54] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Ah, the ping on topic:highsierra is well-advised.
[14:32:16] <meffie> can we have a gerrit topic like rhel74-fallout ?
[14:33:00] <wiesand> No objections to highsierra as it almost only touches OSX specific stuff. But I wouldn't want to delay 1.6.22.1 for it. That should go out r.s.n.
[14:33:27] <meffie> yes
[14:33:52] <meffie> it could go into the 1.6.23pre1
[14:33:54] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Yeah, I think I have enough going on in the next couple days (travel)
that you should not hold up 1.6.22.1 for highsierra
[14:34:04] <wiesand> or 1.6.22.2 ;-)
[14:34:24] <wiesand> agreed then, fine.
[14:35:11] <meffie> (marcio published dmg's with those same patches, if any one needs them.)
[14:35:28] <meffie> (i updated the wiki.openafs.org with the links)
[14:36:07] <wiesand> So the plan is that I prepare 1.6.22.1 as discussed above, with an ETA of "well before next week's meeting"
[14:36:16] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Yes :)
[14:36:23] <meffie> +1
[14:37:01] <wiesand> :)
[14:37:12] <wiesand> On to 1.8/master/…?
[14:37:44] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Not too much change since wednesday; I did merge that linux-4.14 fixup
commit, of course.
[14:37:59] <wiesand> Yes, thanks
[14:38:17] <meffie> thank you
[14:39:22] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> So, give 1.8.0pre3 some more testing, and cheer on Mark
[14:39:30] <meffie> i have no updates for master, just work in progress and old stuff backed up waiting for a 1.8.0 :)
[14:39:54] <wiesand> Like "bind mount" ;-)
[14:40:03] <meffie> exactly
[14:40:13] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> yeah
[14:40:35] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> really want to get 1.8.0 out and unblock things.
Well, differently block things, as I don't have infinite review
bandwidth :(
[14:41:08] <meffie> heh, yes
[14:42:52] <wiesand> Yes, sadly we're still undercritical w.r.t. available human resources.
[14:43:02] <wiesand> And the foundation is dead, right?
[14:43:32] <meffie> no, it's not, i just pushed some commits to github for david bostch
[14:43:46] <wiesand> ok…
[14:43:46] <meffie> they are still actively meeting
[14:43:55] <wiesand> good to hear that
[14:44:27] <meffie> commits for the openafsfoundation.org site that is.
[14:45:04] <meffie> oh, also, i should mention, Caitlyn took on wiki.openafs.org cleanup and reorg.
[14:45:35] <meffie> she has a fork on github that reorgs and the content.
[14:45:54] <meffie> i hope she will be pushing that soon.
[14:46:22] <wiesand> Ah, new minutes :)
[14:46:44] <wiesand> "Funding priorities: 1) Ben - he rocks"
[14:46:55] <wiesand> I couldn't possibly gree more.
[14:47:00] <wiesand> agree
[14:47:05] <meffie> +1 agree
[14:47:26] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> aw, thanks
<3 you all, too
[14:48:21] <meffie> :)
[14:49:00] <wiesand> Looks like we're done for today?
[14:49:01] <meffie> ok, adjourn on i high note?
[14:49:21] <wiesand> So I can start celebrating
[14:49:28] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I think so.  Thanks everyone!
[14:49:39] <meffie> thanks.
[14:49:43] <wiesand> Let's adjourn. Thanks Ben & Mike!
[14:49:44] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> And ... happy birthday?
[14:49:48] <wiesand> Thanks
[14:50:12] <meffie> Stay Safe! Happy Birthday, and many more.
[14:50:36] <wiesand> Not much to celebrate these days anymore, just tradition ;-)
[14:51:03] <wiesand> Stay tuned for the "1.6.22.1 is ready" mail. Bye.
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[14:51:33] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> roger
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