- Wednesday, May 24, 2017

release-team@conference.openafs.org

Wednesday, May 24, 2017< ^ >

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[14:57:34] <mvita> hello
[14:59:14] <meffie> hello
[15:00:51] <mvita> <echo>
[15:01:52] wiesand joins the room
[15:01:59] <wiesand> Hello
[15:02:33] <wiesand> Seems we actually agreed on a new time slot last week...
[15:02:54] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> greetings
[15:02:58] <meffie> yes, that was my recollection.
[15:03:15] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> The archives agree
[15:03:21] <wiesand> disclaimer: I'm sick and in a bad mood
[15:03:37] <meffie> sorry, get well soon
[15:04:00] <mvita> we will try to avoid provoking you further
[15:04:05] <mvita> ;-)
[15:04:37] <wiesand> just go ahead, but tke my responses with a grain of salt ;-)
[15:04:58] <wiesand> so, what do we have to discuss today?
[15:05:18] <wiesand> any Linux news?
[15:05:23] <mvita> not from me.
[15:05:44] <mvita> Joe has been working on other stuff the past few days.
[15:05:59] <mvita> but I believe he has patches for everything we know about so far.
[15:06:13] <wiesand> this means we're still good with the current rc with the changes discussed last week, or we don't know?
[15:06:15] <meffie> i thought gerrit 12614 is needed to build 4.12
[15:06:41] <mvita> yes, that's what I'm talking about, that patch
[15:06:50] <meffie> our nightlies are failing without 12614
[15:07:41] <wiesand> it would be nice to get that merged and hopefully see those nightlies succeed afterwards - what would it take?
[15:09:07] <meffie> i think ben asked for some nits to be fixed, and i think that happened, he probably needs to check the submission again?
[15:09:12] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> I think I just failed to look at ps3 at all, I wonder how I missed it.
[15:09:17] <wiesand> And then I saw a lot of ubik churn in gerrit the last days… could someone summarize what's going on for dummies like me? What of all this will affect 1.6.x.?
[15:10:05] <mvita> much of it will eventually make its way into 1.6.x
[15:10:18] <wiesand> ah
[15:10:22] <meffie> the main thing is 12592
[15:10:44] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> I have to some extent been planning on reviewing them all in one go,
since getting up to speed on how ubik works and the subtle details
requires something of an investment of time.
[15:11:05] <mvita> yes it does.
[15:11:27] <wiesand> needless to say, I agree...
[15:11:32] <meffie> without 12592, sites can fail to regain quorum as long as clients try to write to the db
[15:12:16] <meffie> we've seen this in the wild from multiple sites running 1.6.x
[15:13:06] <wiesand> risk?
[15:13:18] <mvita> well.
[15:13:48] <mvita> the problems are _relatively_ rare - but you only need it to happen once to ruin your whole day
[15:15:20] <mvita> for that one, it becomes more likely with heavy write activity
[15:15:21] <wiesand> To say something positive today, tomorrow's a public holiday here and I hope to get a new test build done and deployed on my test systems. What are the "must have" changes for 1.6.21rc1 from your p.o.v.? (whether or not available in gerrit for 1.6 yet)
[15:15:30] <meffie> i think 12592 is already the conservative change.
[15:15:57] <wiesand> (my test systems don't include any db servers)
[15:16:24] <meffie> and without it, it's possible to lose your db service, which is bad.
[15:17:40] <meffie> the other ubik changes could be deferred to post 1.6.21 imho
[15:18:17] <wiesand> Thanks for your input.
[15:18:56] <meffie> the next one in terms of severity is 12609
[15:19:28] <meffie> this fixes a race that "can ruin your day"
[15:21:00] <meffie> it would be nice if we could get some of jhutz's feedback on the ubik fixes.
[15:27:01] <mvita> I'm not seeing any other must-haves for 1.6.21
[15:28:24] <wiesand> Ok. Some ubik fixes are considered urgent, some others important but could wait for a release, Linux ok for the time being but one change still needs to be merged. on master.
[15:28:49] <meffie> i think we should have 12602 for macos
[15:29:02] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> Sorry I haven't done much reviewing this week.
On the plus side, it looks like I have a usable test setup now for
looking into the reported issue with 1.8.0alpha1 (i.e., a VM that I
can log into and get an AFS homedir)
[15:29:30] <wiesand> Great
[15:29:39] <meffie> excellent.
[15:29:55] <mvita> oh, wait, we need a backport of https://gerrit.openafs.org/#/c/12611/
[15:30:15] <mvita> also needed for linux 4.12, I believe
[15:30:38] <meffie> yes, needed to build 4.12
[15:31:46] <mvita> good news on 1.8 troubleshooting
[15:31:53] <wiesand> I can take care of that, unless the backport is difficult.
[15:31:59] <mvita> no, it's easy
[15:31:59] <wiesand> Will try tomorrow.
[15:32:52] <wiesand> Most of the open changes on 1.6 recevied a +1 from Mark (thanks!), with the exception of 12569.
[15:33:26] <mvita> I guess I missed that one
[15:33:29] <wiesand> It has a +1 from Marcio, but he's the author so one more +1 would be nice.
[15:33:29] <mvita> looking
[15:33:56] <mvita> I was good at DAFS in a previous life
[15:34:36] <wiesand> summon your former life's spirit?
[15:34:58] <meffie> 12569 is pretty straightforward.
[15:35:35] <meffie> it fixes "dont fill the log if someone does vos offline"
[15:36:14] <wiesand> Good. Bracing myself against all those +1s puring int then...
[15:36:24] <meffie> lol
[15:36:59] <wiesand> [I'm not going to correct my typos today]
[15:38:14] <wiesand> Anything else to discuss here and now?
[15:38:41] <mvita> +1 avalanche in 3….2….1….
[15:38:44] <meffie> would it be ok if I did the cut over to the new buildbot master ?
[15:39:07] <wiesand> will it work? ;-)
[15:39:25] <mvita> how can we know unless we try it?
[15:39:27] <mvita> ;-)
[15:39:34] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> I think you should try it.
[15:39:46] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> "What's the worst that could happen?"
[15:39:56] <meffie> ok, thanks. we can fall back to version .8x at any time. they are side-by-side
[15:39:57] <wiesand> just kidding - go ahead as far as I'm concerned
[15:40:16] <meffie> ok, thanks wiesand
[15:40:46] <wiesand> Thanks for your effort!
[15:41:01] <meffie> sorry it's taken so long. they decided to change everything.
[15:41:47] <wiesand> I sympathize… been there once too often....
[15:42:12] <wiesand> Adjourn?
[15:42:22] <meffie> yes
[15:42:47] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> Thanks, everybody
[15:42:51] <wiesand> Thanks a lot everyone!
[15:43:06] <meffie> thank you. same time next week?
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[15:43:32] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> Sounds good to me
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