- Wednesday, May 17, 2017

release-team@conference.openafs.org

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[14:02:23] <meffie> good morning.
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[14:02:35] <mvita> hello
[14:02:38] <wiesand> Hi
[14:02:46] <jhg> good morning!
[14:03:06] <mvita> always a bumpy transition from the previous call
[14:03:23] <mvita> (for me, that is)
[14:03:24] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> Hi
[14:03:42] <wiesand> Sorry for that. Should we rediscuss the time slot for this event?
[14:04:25] <meffie> that would be awesome.
[14:04:44] <wiesand> Anyway, let's start with my favourite topic… Linux
[14:04:57] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> I'd be up for that, with my regular conflict at <current time>+0:30
[14:06:09] <wiesand> I sensed some activity here the last days… could someone update us on the status? We're still broken on 4.11?
[14:06:35] <wiesand> re time slot: what would work better? earlier? later? different day?
[14:07:31] <meffie> i think the fixes are for post 4.11
[14:07:42] <meffie> stuff in progress for 4.12?
[14:07:43] <jhg> fixes are in
[14:08:07] <jhg> I think the bdi stuff was for 4.12... though I am not sure yet.
[14:08:26] <wiesand> At least that's what the commit message says
[14:08:29] <meffie> yes, they were *after* the 4.11 tags
[14:08:32] <jhg> regardless of which version the changes land in, we have the fixes
[14:08:39] <mvita> yes, 4.12
[14:08:52] <mvita> some of the confusion is my fault
[14:09:00] <jhg> linux is set for 4.11 and 4.12 right now. test lights are green. =)
[14:09:01] <mvita> I was misreading the log history
[14:09:09] <jhg> mvita: unforgivable!
[14:09:12] <mvita> Linux git history is non-linear
[14:09:14] <jhg> ;)
[14:09:22] <jhg> yeah, no kidding!
[14:09:23] <wiesand> but it looks like 12611 makes the client build on 4.11, but not run?
[14:09:51] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> I think some confusion was that mainline identifies as the previous
version until it's rc time.
[14:09:56] <mvita> so you can't tell which fixes belong to a given tag using the default chonological order log commands
[14:10:09] <jhg> wiesand: I think those were called 4.11 because of the nightlies built on rc's... what they said ^^^
[14:10:25] <mvita> yes, that also contributed to the confusion
[14:10:39] <mvita> both CURRENT_TIME and the bdi stuff are for 4.12
[14:10:53] <meffie> yes
[14:10:55] <wiesand> So, since I'm stupid, let me ask once more:
[14:11:48] <wiesand> 1.6.20.2 is ok on 4.11, and with 112611 + 12614 we're coping with the current 4.12rc?
[14:12:07] <meffie> yes
[14:12:09] <jhg> yes
[14:12:18] <wiesand> Awesome! Thanks :)
[14:12:25] <mvita> I just corrected my misstatement in 12611, for the record
[14:12:26] <jhg> o/
[14:13:31] <wiesand> Looks like we're actually heading for a 1.6.21 in a few weeks then.
[14:13:51] jhg whispers, don't leave him hanging... =)  \o
[14:14:27] <wiesand> not getting that one…
[14:14:34] <meffie> me neither :)
[14:14:42] <jhg> high five!
[14:14:51] <jhg> o/\o
[14:14:53] <wiesand> comforting
[14:15:12] <meffie> ascii art
[14:15:24] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> mvita: do I want to defer the ubik-logging topic until after 1.8?
[14:15:58] <mvita> not sure what you're asking
[14:16:12] <mvita> sorry
[14:16:36] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> w.r.t. meeting time, other day or later are generally fine; earlier is
probably also fine except for when I stay up too late.
[14:16:48] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> Well, we are in feature freeze after all
[14:17:35] <mvita> oh, I see.  Well, I consider all of these are important for debugging ubik problems in the field.
[14:18:05] <mvita> so, I would like to see them make it to 1.6 asap
[14:18:09] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> I mean, that's what I expected to hear, but just wanted to check.
[14:18:36] <mvita> not that we ever see ubik problems in the field (eyeroll)
[14:18:59] <mvita> ;-)
[14:22:09] <wiesand> humble reminder: getting things into 1.6 requires code review even if they were already accepted on master…
[14:22:28] <mvita> ack.
[14:22:29] <meffie> yes
[14:22:51] <wiesand> we've been kind of short on that lately
[14:24:24] <mvita> I'll do some today.
[14:24:36] <wiesand> new time slot proposal 1: same day, an hour later
[14:24:38] <meffie> thanks!
[14:24:39] <wiesand> thanks Mark
[14:24:57] <wiesand> new time slot proposal 2: thursday, same time
[14:25:42] <meffie> thursday is great for me.
[14:26:38] <mvita> proposals 1 & 2 are both okay by me, with preference to 1
[14:28:19] <meffie> ben,we need a tie breaker
[14:28:50] jhg abstains
[14:30:51] <wiesand> I guess Ben is busy with his other meeting again… let's postpone a decision to next week.
[14:31:06] <wiesand> Is there more to discuss today?
[14:31:37] <meffie> just wanted to mention, i'm still working on the buildbot master upgrade.
[14:31:50] <wiesand> Thanks. That would help...
[14:32:30] <mvita> oh, speaking of buildbot
[14:32:43] <meffie> i'll try to finish this week. it turns out to require a rewrite of the afsbotcfg/master.cfg
[14:33:07] <mvita> I noticed that we are not getting any "Verified" comments coming through, even though all builds are successful
[14:33:23] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> Buildbot upgrades are exciting
[14:33:35] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> Well, there is the one build that fails with an exception
[14:33:54] <meffie> mvita: too bad. i dont want to hear about any buildbot email problems :)
[14:33:56] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> I'd lean slightly towards thursday, but both work for me.
[14:34:23] <mvita> oh, I saw that, I guess that one must count.
[14:34:51] <mvita> but there's no failure notification either.
[14:35:00] <mvita> FreeBSD
[14:35:14] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> Yeah, staying on the bleeding edge of buildbot versions, apparently.
[14:37:39] <meffie> buildbot 0.9 should have been named buildbot v2.0
[14:39:47] <wiesand> Since my personal preference is thursday too… move the meeting to thursday, 2pm utc (when on dst, 3pm utc when not)?
[14:39:52] <meffie> hopefully this will fix the gerrit verfies.
[14:40:29] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> When *who* is on dst? ;)
[14:41:31] <wiesand> I've *tried* to make it the US folks (failed this spring, but that will hopefully be an exception)
[14:44:32] <meffie> oh, dang it, we have a standup at 10am edt on thursday.
[14:45:14] <wiesand> That would limit the meeting to an hour… not necessarily bad…
[14:45:23] <wiesand> er, forget it
[14:45:54] <wiesand> Friday, anyone?
[14:45:57] <meffie> can we make it 2:30pm to 3:00pm utc (10:30 - 11:00 edt) ?
[14:46:40] <wiesand> that would work fine for me
[14:47:28] <meffie> proposal 3: thurday 2:30pm to 3:00pm utc (10:30 - 11:00 edt)
[14:48:57] <mvita> 3 is acceptable to me, but I still prefer 1
[14:54:11] <wiesand> Ben? Joe? 3 or 1?
[14:54:36] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> Hang on...
[14:55:03] <jhg> Status quo, then 1 for my preference
[14:55:16] <wiesand> sigh
[14:55:30] <meffie> 1 is not status quo.
[14:55:54] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> Right, Joe prefers status quo over 1
[14:56:08] <jhg> and 1 over the rest =)
[14:56:12] <kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowlAD8979B7> I prefer 1 over 3 over status quo
[14:56:33] <wiesand> mike, shall we give in and make it 1?
[14:56:35] <meffie> ok, 1 has it
[14:56:50] <meffie> yes, 1 is fine
[14:57:01] <mvita> yay
[14:57:05] <wiesand> Wow, that was… quick & easy
[14:57:11] <mvita> HA
[14:57:40] <jhg> must... optimize... everything! =)
[14:58:33] <wiesand> Good. Anything else to discuss today?
[14:58:42] <mvita> nothing from me
[14:59:14] <wiesand> If not, let's adjourn til next Wednesday, 3pm UTC?
[14:59:23] <meffie> thanks
[14:59:29] <mvita> ok.  Thank you Stephan.
[15:00:08] <jhg> sounds good
[15:00:15] <wiesand> Thanks a lot everyone!
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