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[06:59:33] <wiesand> Hello Andrew and Marc
[06:59:45] <Marc Dionne> hi Stephan
[06:59:51] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> mornin'.
[07:00:04] <wiesand> Good morning Ben. Is anyone else actually here?
[07:01:04] <wiesand> Probably not. Jeffrey said that Derrick and he probably wouldn't be available.
[07:01:21] <wiesand> So let's make it a brief one.
[07:01:28] <wiesand> Marc: Any Linux news?
[07:01:29] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Hmm, I should probably go actually look at the agenda.
[07:01:41] <Marc Dionne> just tested this morning with current git, still ok
[07:01:50] <wiesand> Good, thanks.
[07:02:05] <deason> hi, all
[07:02:09] <Marc Dionne> odds that that 3.12 will be released over the weekend, unless LInus decides to do another rc
[07:02:14] <Marc Dionne> hi Andrew
[07:03:04] <wiesand> It'd be nice if 3.12 were released soon.
[07:03:19] <wiesand> Does anyone have any information regarding the state of a Mavericks client?
[07:03:48] <deason> sounds like it panics on creating symlinks
[07:03:54] <wiesand> :-(
[07:04:15] <deason> at least for one guy
[07:04:33] <Marc Dionne> derrick would be the one to ask
[07:04:59] <wiesand> right...
[07:05:13] <wiesand> Ok, next topic: the 10354 stack.
[07:05:45] <wiesand> I think it needs some more review.
[07:05:51] <wiesand> Or doesn't it?
[07:06:18] <deason> I can get some this week
[07:07:11] <wiesand> I also have to admit I hadn't time to run a test build with this in. Shoudl manage later today.
[07:07:40] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I think I started glancing at them and decided that I wasn't very
familiar with that part of the code.
[07:08:00] <wiesand> Fair enough.
[07:08:09] <Marc Dionne> i'll try to go have a closer look through the set, fwiw
[07:08:31] <wiesand> Thanks. I saw you already reviewed one of them.
[07:09:45] <wiesand> Ok, on to the BSD changes.
[07:09:56] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Sorry they're so late.
[07:10:09] <wiesand> I see there are pullups now. Are these complete yet?
[07:10:09] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> (Including the one I just pushed a minute ago, 10381.)
[07:10:19] <wiesand> reloading...
[07:10:44] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I need to re-test in my 9.2 and 10.0 VMs, but the code is identical to
what I had staged previously.
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[07:12:34] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Do you want me to put a +1 in when I've done that?
[07:12:55] <wiesand> Yes, please.
[07:13:17] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Okay, will do.
They should all be simple and/or freebsd-specific.
[07:14:48] <wiesand> At first glance, they all look ok to me.
[07:15:20] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Sounds good.
[07:16:09] <wiesand> Still, they should be reviewed by others before merging. But I don't expect any objections.
[07:17:04] <wiesand> Fine. Last topic: As you can see, I haven't had time to push a next draft of the release notes yet.
[07:17:33] <wiesand> But I believe I have all the input I need for what's up there to do so (thanks).
[07:18:08] <wiesand> Of course the list will have to grow a bit, too with the new changes lined up for inclusion.
[07:18:15] <wiesand> Help welcome ;-)
[07:18:23] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I have an open issue about the clang/lwp stack alignment issues I see
on freebsd, but I don't think I can really ask other people to put
much time into it.
[07:18:29] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> I'm considering whether it's worth testing a build with -mstackrealign
applied only to lwp.c, since that would be a more narrowly scoped
change.  I still don't have a good sense for where in the stack the
best place to check for that flag and introduce it is, though.
[07:19:46] <wiesand> Sorry can't help there.
[07:20:51] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Andrew, any thoughts?
[07:21:50] <deason> I'm not sure I understand; do you mean "where in the stack" as in the stack of gerrit commits?
[07:21:57] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Hmm, I see the lwp.o rule already has a special case for rs_aix*.
[07:22:05] <deason> or what files to use -mstackrealign?
[07:22:35] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Where in the build order.  The check would need to be at configure
time, I suppose, but does the extra information go in Makefile.config,
or directly into the Makefile, or somewhere else?
[07:23:54] <deason> this is a configure check? I thought it was always on freebsd of certain versions or something
[07:24:23] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> That flag is clang-specific, unfortunately.
[07:24:44] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> So, we would need to either check for the flag at configure time, or
have some way of knowing wither CC is clang or gcc or other.
[07:24:55] <deason> configure sets MSTACKREALIGN, and a makefile.in references @MSTACKREALIGN@ somehow
[07:25:03] <deason> something like that, is what I would expect
[07:25:23] <deason> or more conventially, MSTACKREALIGN=@MSTACKREALIGN@, and then $(MSTACKREALIGN) later
[07:25:38] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Okay, I'll take a look at that.
[07:27:17] <wiesand> Anything else to discuss today?
[07:28:18] <wiesand> Marc, thanks for the +1s
[07:28:50] <Marc Dionne> no problem
[07:29:57] <wiesand> Ok then. I'll stay online for a while, but this concludes the meeting. Thanks everyone.
[07:30:34] <kaduk@jabber.openafs.org/barnowl> Thanks, Stephan.
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