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[07:02:44] mornin'. [07:02:59] good afternoon :-) [07:04:49] I'm awfully busy these days. I'll hopefully have more time to spend on openafs starting friday. [07:06:42] Let's start with 9695. Not much review for the current patchset yet. [07:07:59] --- Simon Wilkinson has left [07:08:20] --- Simon Wilkinson has become available [07:08:35] Looks like the main niggles are with the documentation. Really need Ben and Jeffrey to go back and check that their comments are addressed by the latest patchset. [07:08:41] I'm looking at a diff between the 4th and 5th patchset right now. [07:09:00] (which is only doc changes) [07:10:38] Thanks Derrick [07:11:28] Starting a sentence with 'or' is a little dicey, but still acceptable. [07:12:15] So I guess it's good enough now. We should probably wait for the doc changes to be merged on master before merging it on 1.6.x though? [07:13:41] The doc will inherently be different on 1.6 and master. [07:13:54] Yeah, I think that's good to merge now. [07:13:57] I don't think there's a need for direct trickle-down, here. [07:14:51] Ok. I'll merge it after my next test build/run. [07:15:16] Like 9792. [07:15:54] I'd like to have 9803 in 1.6.3 too. Some more review would be nice. [07:17:01] And I think we should have the pullup of 9833 in pre1. [07:17:38] Indeed. [07:17:51] Yeah [07:17:54] Someone needs to put it in master before it gets pulled up though... [07:18:06] Derrick just merged it. [07:18:08] Thanks. [07:18:34] I'll pull it up (on friday) unless anyone beats me. [07:20:05] But that's all I see blocking 1.6.3pre1. [07:20:52] Sounds good to me [07:21:41] So, we should finally have one later this week. [07:21:51] --- deason/gmail has become available [07:23:50] Hello Andrew. Thanks for the cache invalidation fix. [07:24:17] sorry for the tardiness [07:24:23] I can pull 9833 momentarily [07:24:41] is that all for this morning? [07:24:43] Fine :-) [07:25:24] Probably. [07:26:44] You're doing better than two (?) weeks ago, when I was commuting for the whole meeting :) [07:27:34] I think it's natural. The dust is settling. [07:28:02] Jeff, thanks for the +1 on 9755. [07:28:40] I was wondering whether and how often we should update biaries for the current stable release. [07:29:19] What do you mean by updating binaries? [07:30:03] Well, mostly adding the modules for new Linux kernels, and update the metadata. [07:30:10] And the web page. [07:30:23] Has this been done regularly in the past [07:30:27] Well, for Fedora it happens nightly. [07:30:39] (and RHEL, toO) [07:31:06] Stephen's got a cron job that rebuilds anything that needs rebuilding, that then emails Derrick, who rsyncs them over and (sometimes) updates the web page. [07:31:16] The builds in Edinburgh, yes. But that doesn't get them up to grand.central.org . [07:32:05] From memory, I think they actually do get to grand.central.org now - we've got a keytab. But the volume release is manual, as is the website recreation. [07:32:41] I don't see any complaints on the mail lists. Maybe there's not much demand? [07:33:08] --- Simon Wilkinson has left [07:33:08] Simon Wilkinson: I think you're right, it's just volume release which is required [07:33:20] The FreeBSD builds are against stable release versions, which should not change after release, so there's no issue for that OS at least. [07:34:25] Andrew, thanks for 9837. [07:34:52] np [07:34:58] --- Simon Wilkinson has become available [07:35:03] Ben, yes, and it's probably the same for solaris, OS X etc. [07:35:17] I expect so. [07:35:28] It's just the sad Linux thing. [07:35:51] Simon Wilkinson: actually, looking again. I don't think we do automatically copy over new RPMs, I guess we could/should. [07:36:29] Seemingly, what we do copy are just the kernel-devel packages [07:36:30] I thought I'd added that before I left, could be wrong though. I think we do have a grand.central.org key to let us do so. [07:36:46] yes, I have a keytab, should be possible, where do they need to go? [07:36:55] Derrick? [07:39:19] i rsync e.g. [07:39:33] /afs/inf.ed.ac.uk/group/afsbuild/1.6.2 /afs/.grand.central.org/software/openafs/1.6.2 [07:42:02] Someone added replicas for the volume, so it has to be released as well. [07:43:29] It's the release that's tricky. grand.central.org doesn't have remctl, and to date there's been a relucatance to have super user abilities sitting in arbitrary key tabs. [07:43:50] --- Simon Wilkinson has left [07:44:24] Quite understandably. [07:44:36] And if we don't update the web page, why bother? [07:47:14] We could simply symlink to /afs/inf.ed.ac.uk/ ... [07:47:27] because repos will work correctly. but. yeah, we could do that too [07:49:40] True, the repos will work. [07:50:44] Stephan, would it be possible to receive a notification mail when afsbuild/ is updated? [07:51:01] yes, what address? [07:51:41] stephan.wiesand@desy.de [07:55:10] I've added you [07:55:28] Thanks. Let's see how that works out. [07:56:00] It looks like you're updating the RHEL directories regularly, but not the Fedora ones? [08:00:46] Should be doing them all, hang on, will check [08:01:55] [seems my last message too several *minutes* to get through to the server] [08:02:19] fedora-17-i386 18:15:06 30-Apr-2013 Built new RPMS fedora-17-x86_64 18:04:37 30-Apr-2013 Built new RPMS [08:02:26] that's for 1.6.2.1 [08:02:54] Ah, of course. Ok. [08:03:14] I was looking at 1.6.2 only. [08:03:25] not even bothering to attempt that on fedora [08:04:25] Good. I'll rsync (and release) at least occasionally. [08:04:38] Anything else to discuss today? [08:04:51] nothing here [08:06:00] Thanks a lot everyone. Minutes will have to wait until friday as well, sorry. [08:06:35] But I expect we'll have some real progress within a couple of days now. [08:06:44] Bye. 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