[00:26:42] --- squinney has become available [00:50:55] --- Simon Wilkinson has left [00:52:06] --- Simon Wilkinson has become available [03:47:50] --- dev-zero@jabber.org has left [04:34:48] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Disconnected [04:35:54] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [05:36:10] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Disconnected [05:39:30] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [07:01:54] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Disconnected [07:07:26] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [07:16:48] --- deason has become available [07:55:53] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Disconnected [08:09:00] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [08:13:38] --- mvitale has left [08:16:52] --- mvitale has become available [09:00:01] --- squinney has left [09:30:01] --- deason has left [10:09:23] --- meffie has become available [10:37:31] --- kula has left: Lost connection [10:58:27] --- meffie has left [10:58:31] --- mmeffie has become available [10:58:43] --- deason has become available [11:01:41] Simon: if I want to talk about changes to draft-wilkinson-afs3-rxgk-* should I show diffs against the txt or xml format? [11:06:14] kaduk: Either are fine. [11:06:36] XML is probably easier if the changes are to be applied as they are, txt is easier if it's for discussion [11:07:11] Okay. I guess I will mark up a paper printout and then decide which format to use based on how much discussion is involved. [11:08:26] Have you gone back through the mailing list archive? Andrew Deason posted a load of comments from a collective review that SNA did, which I responded to. I've not yet published a document responding to those comments. [11:09:41] --- kula has become available [11:10:32] My plan was to assemble comments from the archive into a patchset [11:10:56] And then add anything I had new from my own comments. [11:11:37] I think the version I have here addresses everything that I believed needed changed. [11:11:50] Ah. [11:12:09] Hmm, it's unclear that posting your current local version as a new I-D is the best choice, though. [11:13:19] I don't think there are any other comments outstanding, if that's what you mean. [11:16:03] Given that there was no further discussion of Andrews changes, I believed that there were no objections to my proposed new draft language. [11:16:19] So I might as well at least post something that reflects those changes. [11:26:46] I suppose. I guess I'm just operating under a (misguided?) sense of desire to avoid releasing multiple updates in close succession, if I did have any proposed changes that have not already been addressed. [11:28:39] How about I send you the current XML, and you can do diffs against that? [11:30:26] That should work well. [11:31:34] Email as your Jabber ID? [11:31:48] Yup. [11:36:06] Got them, thanks. [11:41:06] --- Derrick Brashear has become available [12:04:04] Hmm, pipermail seems to have lost a few messages from afs3-stds. [12:04:36] namely? [12:04:46] Well, say, http://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/afs3-standardization/2010-December/000857.html [12:05:52] deengert's "A call for consensus on draft-brasehar-afs3-pts-extended-names-07" also from 2010-december is perhaps of more interest to me right now, but I can't get it either. [12:06:13] i bet there was some special character in it which made something stupid happen [12:06:40] well, you missed, if you want to object. cuz, well, guess what [12:07:19] Oh, that one passed last call, I know. [12:07:42] Yeah, it's the only thing that is actually done from a standardisation perspective. [12:07:59] I'm delving myself in history, is all. A little odd to have that big gap between 2010-december and 2012-february, though... [12:13:18] There definitely should be messages in that gap. [12:13:38] Hrrm. I guess I should find a different archive, then. [12:13:41] i bet they went to "the other machine" during the list server move, and were "lost" [12:15:33] kaduk@mit.edu/barnowl: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.afs.standardization or http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.afs.standardization [12:18:53] Hmm, reading oldest-first will be a bit annoying there, but I suppose is doable. [12:21:04] --- Brandon Allbery has left [12:21:26] --- Brandon Allbery has become available [12:27:29] I wonder if I could get Apple Mail to spit out my archive in a usable format ... [12:28:14] --- Derrick Brashear has left [12:28:43] --- Derrick Brashear has become available [12:28:55] well, if i remembered where it went, i am pretty sure there is an imap folder at cmu with it. but so far i have not remembered. [12:31:09] ah. nope. either it never happened or it got unsubscribed at some point [13:07:22] --- Derrick Brashear has left [13:08:01] --- Derrick Brashear has become available [13:21:04] --- Derrick Brashear has left [13:21:54] --- Derrick Brashear has become available [13:23:16] --- Derrick Brashear has left [13:24:06] --- Derrick Brashear has become available [13:28:59] --- Derrick Brashear has left [13:32:19] --- Derrick Brashear has become available [13:45:01] --- Derrick Brashear has left [14:20:33] --- mdionne has become available [14:54:25] --- mvitale has left [14:56:40] --- mmeffie has left [15:22:00] --- Simon Wilkinson has left [15:23:01] --- Simon Wilkinson has become available [15:29:23] Simon: there were a number of things mentioned in the "afs3_rxgk_notes" attachment to Tom Keiser's mail of 20 April 2012 that do not seem to be addressed. Did you not see that attachment? [15:31:30] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Replaced by new connection [15:31:38] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [15:33:02] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Disconnected [15:35:47] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [15:37:00] --- deason has left [15:39:55] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Disconnected [15:47:55] I guess I will just fall back to my original plan and repeat them in the form of a patchset. 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