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[12:39:55] --- shadow@gmail.com/barnowl29570F23 has left: Lost connection [12:39:55] --- steven.jenkins has left: Lost connection [12:41:13] I have been working the author of libtree, which has the properties I needed from this AVL implementation, about the virtues of lgpl/bsd dual licensing. I don't think I've convinced him yet. [12:41:39] --- steven.jenkins has become available [12:42:17] --- shadow@gmail.com/barnowlB1AB44ED is now known as shadow@gmail.com/barnowl29570F23 [12:45:41] To check, is this code going to end up in the OpenAFS libraries, or is it just internal to the servers? [12:45:59] If it ends up in the libraries, I think the CDDL becomes even more of a problem, since it means that people can't write GPL-covered code that links with OpenAFS libraries. [12:46:46] It's goes in the CM for now. Maybe viced at some point. [12:46:56] Oh, okay. That should be fine. [12:46:58] I have no need that I can think of to have it in a library. [12:47:15] Yeah, then it should be okay, it's just annoying to have yet another license. [12:47:20] --- shadow@gmail.com/barnowl29570F23 is now known as shadow@gmail.com/barnowlB1AB44ED [12:47:21] Yeah, sorry. [12:47:56] As I say, I can eventually dodge this instance, but on the unicode processing stuff, as discussed in Pgh, I don't think so. [12:48:34] libuafs is a library... [12:48:47] Yeah, but not one that a lot of people link against. [12:49:13] matt: libicu doesn't have what you need? [12:49:20] I think we just need to avoid doing so ourselves. [12:49:25] In a Unix kernel? [12:49:39] Oh, for the kernel side stuff. Yeah, libicu probably won't build in a kernel context. [12:49:41] I think that would be really unwise. [12:50:09] (ok) [12:50:29] Won't Heimdal eventually need to have Unicode handling, at least to the extent of having canonicalization, in order to support Unicode identities and passwords? [12:50:36] I can't imagine Love accepting CDDL code. [12:51:22] I really don't know. My intuition is we should take the right code if the license is acceptable to us. I don't know how to make the calculation for Heimdal. [12:52:22] --- shadow@gmail.com/barnowlB1AB44ED is now known as shadow@gmail.com/barnowl29570F23 [12:52:22] Maybe plug it out for kernel? [12:53:37] I was just going to mention... depending on performance-criticality, we can make upcalls for stuff like this [12:53:43] Oh, dude. [12:53:52] Oh, right, Heimdal has a whole bunch of Unicode stuff in the wind library already. [12:53:58] Which appears to all be local to Heimdal. [12:54:04] I wonder if that does anything remotely close to what we need? [12:54:25] I knew I'd seen Unicode stuff somewhere in Heimdal. [12:54:48] Looks like a stringprep implementation. [12:56:56] I'd have to review it. I know what I'd do in this case, and that was the Pgh consensus. I'm more interested in performance, (small size), and safety. 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