[03:22:43] --- lars.malinowsky has become available [05:20:50] --- abo has left [05:32:40] --- shadow@gmail.com/barnowlA109197F has become available [06:27:15] --- meffie has become available [06:30:56] --- steven.jenkins has left [06:36:36] --- steven.jenkins has become available [06:40:59] --- abo has become available [06:52:10] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [07:31:24] --- deason/gmail has become available [08:20:22] --- lars.malinowsky has left [08:36:49] buildbot is down due to an internet outage [09:40:59] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Disconnected [09:45:34] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [09:48:21] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Replaced by new connection [09:48:36] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [09:59:39] --- shadow@gmail.com/barnowlA109197F has left [10:02:32] Please pass the coffee i.v. [10:02:45] --- shadow@gmail.com/barnowlA109197F has become available [10:03:08] --- shadow@gmail.com has become available [10:04:35] --- shadow@gmail.com has left [10:08:55] --- rra has become available [10:27:46] Hmm. How is it that I am able to modify /afs/ourcell/admin/foo/bar.txt when foo is a mountpoint for a replicated volume [10:28:22] fs lsm foo --> #admin.foo [10:28:39] vos exam admin.foo shows 2 ROs [10:28:52] both released previously [10:29:11] did you just add the RO sites? [10:29:14] nope [10:29:26] previously added and both do not show as "Not released" [10:31:27] and releasing the volume again does not fix the problem [10:31:43] I'm clearly missing something obvious [10:35:15] Is admin in a read-only volume? [10:35:28] Path descent favors read-write as soon as any parent volume is read-write. [10:37:16] admin is root.admin and is RW [10:37:30] weird, I never knew that before [10:50:12] 'fs lq' or 'fs exa' can be helpful to quickly see if you're in an ro or rw, and then see where it changes [10:51:08] You can explicitly mount an RO under a RW by mounting volume.readonly, IIRC. [10:51:44] Although I suspect you then don't get the transparent fallback to the RW volume if none of the ROs have been released. [10:54:31] --- meffie has left [11:00:04] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Disconnected [11:24:12] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [11:31:42] --- meffie has become available [11:45:27] Sweet, today is AFS day apparently. fs checkvol, fs lsm init --> #admin.init, fs rmm init --> 'init does not exist' [11:53:43] trailing slash on 'init' ? [11:53:56] cuz that'll give you dne on a mountpoint [12:06:30] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Replaced by new connection [12:06:35] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [12:06:44] phalenor: nope [12:06:56] phalenor: failed that way many times though :) [12:07:07] dunno what happened, but it's all straightened out now [12:07:38] went to another host and worked from there, which showed 'init' already rmm'd [12:07:59] went back to original host and everything was peachy *shrug* [12:55:36] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Disconnected [13:25:08] --- lars.malinowsky has become available [14:26:05] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [15:05:34] --- meffie has left [15:54:24] --- deason/gmail has left [17:20:56] --- deason/gmail has become available [17:39:26] --- rra has left: Disconnected [17:58:45] Can we rely on a ?= operator in make? [18:36:43] --- lars.malinowsky has left [19:21:09] Hmm, I guess buildbot is still off the net. :( Now I don't get to find out if my libafs build refactoring works. [20:40:56] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Disconnected [20:41:14] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [20:44:53] > Can we rely on a ?= operator in make? not on solaris, and probably others [20:48:33] Pity. Well, at least I didn't submit something completely stupid in 4885, then. [21:02:58] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Disconnected [21:10:02] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [21:11:19] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Replaced by new connection [21:11:20] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [21:17:08] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has left: Disconnected [21:18:20] --- jaltman/FrogsLeap has become available [21:59:27] --- mfelliott has left [22:22:54] --- deason/gmail has left [23:37:38] --- Russ has left: Disconnected