[00:40:42] --- dev-zero@jabber.org has become available [00:40:45] --- dev-zero@jabber.org has left: offline [01:46:27] --- kula has left [01:46:52] --- kula has become available [04:35:52] --- mmeffie has become available [04:51:58] --- mmeffie has left [05:04:43] --- pod has become available [05:16:29] a thought: if we know writing an mmap()ed file larger than (some size larger than) the cache will fail, and we can't rework enough of the VM system to fix that, seems like either a writable map file>cache should error, or the first attempt to write should error [05:26:22] --- SecureEndpoints has left: Replaced by new connection [07:00:56] --- matt has become available [07:10:57] --- mmeffie has become available [08:16:24] --- SecureEndpoints has become available [08:34:35] --- sxw has become available [08:34:56] That would seem reasonable [08:35:37] I'd like to know more about what the actual error is, though. Do we error when filesize>cache, or when mmap'd region>cache, or when pages dirtied>cache ? [08:59:09] --- sxw has left [10:24:43] --- Russ has become available [10:31:12] > I'd like to know more about what the actual error is, though. [10:31:25] that's why i haven't coded anything yet, the information isn't very solid [11:08:44] --- dev-zero@jabber.org has become available [11:08:48] --- dev-zero@jabber.org has left: offline [13:30:44] git be praised [13:32:08] git does rock. [13:33:45] is there a GSoC project working on git stuff for Windows users? [13:33:59] not that i know of [13:34:21] ok. so there is still some slight pain involved in using git from windows? [13:34:48] u dunno [13:34:55] I don't find it so, with a cygwin kit. More true windows users might find it so. [13:35:05] I think msys git should be avoided. [13:35:23] I simply refuse to install cygwin on my systems though [13:35:30] well... [13:35:33] I don't consider cygwin secure [13:35:45] I could probably get it to build under SFU/SUA though [13:35:50] perhaps I should just do that [13:36:29] Please report results, if you do that. [13:37:44] I would expect it to work. [13:40:59] --- mmeffie has left [13:45:33] there was no mentor available to work on libgit2. As a result, the project did not go forward during GSoC [14:26:55] --- dev-zero@jabber.org has become available [14:26:58] --- dev-zero@jabber.org has left: offline [15:21:11] Whither struct vcache::laststat? [15:24:46] Oh. Never mind. [15:34:57] matt: Was your 'git be praised' in relation to anything in particular? [15:35:33] No, just happy success in a local rebase I attempted here. [15:36:17] I'm hoping to get a naive translation of OpenAFS into git done before the Workshop. Well, actually before the start of SoC coding, if I'm lucky. [15:36:49] That would be great. does that mean the outcome of all open efforts is unknown? [15:36:53] (The git conversion is the easy bit. gerrit will be slightly more involved) [15:37:09] I mean, all the efforts to get all the history etc. [15:37:14] Unknown, or unlikely to be complete in a reasonable timeframe. [15:37:44] By complete I mean give us history, deltas, branches, and tags in their correct positions. [15:38:22] Sure. Thanks for taking up the smaller project. [15:38:56] It's just a stepping stone to having gerrit for code review. Which is what I _really_ want at this point. [15:39:09] I figure that we can rebase in a better history at some point in the future. [15:40:09] That seems like a good path. [15:50:22] --- edgester has become available [15:51:12] hi guys [15:51:20] Hi Jason [15:51:39] I'm glad you liked the newsletter. [15:51:44] Hi Simon [15:51:58] Hi Matt, did you read the newsletter? [15:53:25] edgester: are the newsletters online somewhere? [15:54:14] [OpenAFS] OpenAFS Newsletter, Issue 1, May 2009 [15:55:06] Jason: You were asking about openafs-announce. I think the next one should probably go there, and to openafs-devel, too. [15:55:25] that isn't quite what I had in mind [16:00:33] edgester: Did you ever get sorted out with access to grand to do webby stuff? [16:08:43] No, that's my fault. Give me a few minutes. [16:19:32] OK; he has access now [16:21:10] jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl: Thanks! Now how to I access things? [16:22:10] cclausen: I figured I would put them on openafs.org once I got the access. [16:23:28] Simon Wilkinson: Yes, I think openafs-announce would be good, but I didn't want to delay further [16:24:11] edgester: You can just post to all 3. The other 2 will get through, and openafs-announce will be held until somebody approves it. [16:25:48] Simon Wilkinson: ok [16:27:47] What is it with addressing people using overly-verbose JID's instead of their names? [16:28:07] > Now how to I access things? Ask Derrick [16:28:19] ... because I'm going out of town ~now. GONE [16:32:30] have fun! [16:56:01] jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl: our jabber clients tab complete the JIDs so its faster than typing [17:03:09] --- Russ has left: Disconnected [17:07:42] --- matt has left [17:18:48] --- Russ has become available [17:28:59] > What is it with addressing people using overly-verbose JID's [17:29:08] clicking reply in a client, i bet [17:42:00] shadow@gmail.com/owlEBA7042D: nah, I'm using tab completion in pidgin [17:48:20] it's annoying nonetheless. my name's not shadow. [17:52:58] --- tkeiser@sinenomine.net/owl has become available [18:49:43] sorry Derrick. I guess you could hack your client to use a better nick in the conference room. [18:50:53] --- edgester has left [18:51:59] i could tell it so without hacking. i don't really understand why you'd ever want to address someone by userid regardless. [18:52:52] shadow@gmail.com/owlEBA7042D: some chat clients will flash the window to get the attention of the person addressed [18:53:10] this one used to try to beep. i fixed that [18:53:14] shadow@gmail.com/owlEBA7042D: yep... tab completion [18:53:15] (when that user's handle in mentioned in the channel) [18:53:24] talking about shadow@gmail.com/owlEBA7042D [18:53:27] and about cclausen [18:53:30] :-D [18:53:37] also, some people don't like their real name being mentioned in the room [18:53:58] "Guilty or innocent?" [18:54:16] I would call them paranoid [18:54:30] mmm... strawberry chocolate smoothie :) [18:54:37] presumably, that is why one would pick "shadow" as a nickname to begin with [18:55:05] instead of something actually identifying the user like say their first initial and last name [18:55:26] speaking of that, is this conference room logged ? [18:55:27] crime spree in my area.... golf club thefts!! [18:55:36] dbrashear is a lame username. i have never hidden who i am tho [18:55:41] this room is logged. you are all going to jail [18:55:45] this room is logged [18:56:02] ... to the chagrin of the environmentalists [18:56:11] is there a warning about that sent to users when they enter? [18:56:20] --- reuteras has left [18:56:25] my client tells me [18:56:33] --- abo has left [18:56:37] mine doesn't seem to [18:56:39] --- stevenjenkins has left [18:56:40] --- reuteras has become available [18:56:48] get a better client [18:56:54] all I saw was "General OpenAFS Discussion" [18:57:00] but mine has told me that before [18:57:06] --- abo has become available [18:57:07] (that the room is logged, that is) [18:57:48] seems that the logging part got lost [19:00:14] --- stevenjenkins has become available [19:14:29] Get a better client. The logging is mentioned in the topic, which I see just fine every time I join. [19:17:57] It looks like your client is only showing you the description and not the subject. [19:18:44] I get the topic as part of the scrollback -- it's possible that you do have a good client and you're missing it. [19:41:24] My client is currently telling me "No topic is set" [19:41:45] mine says "No Topic" as well [19:41:50] I am using Trillian Pro [19:41:55] pidgin here [19:41:59] and since I paid for it, I'm unlikely to use something else [19:42:18] are the two of you on the openafs jabber server directly? [19:42:44] are you sure those of use using gtalk accounts would be able to see the topic? [19:43:01] alternately, what client do you recommend? [19:43:20] * Russ is using Pidgin, so yeah, I suspect it's actually a server problem rather than a client problem given that. [19:43:22] I've seen it before using pidgin via gtalk [19:43:33] is the server openfire? [19:43:48] * Russ points out that anyone can create an account directly on jabber.openafs.org who wants to. [19:43:50] No. [19:43:57] oh, I did not know that [19:44:03] We didn't really advertise it. [19:44:11] Most people seem to like using their existing accounts. [19:44:30] I'm using Pandion [19:44:30] But most of the clients merge multiple accounts together fairly well. [19:45:21] --- cclausen has left [19:45:24] * Russ has three different ones that I use for various things. [19:45:51] perhaps the logging can be added to the description then, since some servers seem to not pass the topic' [19:48:32] --- cclausen has become available [19:48:57] I now see a topic when logged into the server directly [19:49:16] I didn't think you could login to the server directly [19:49:35] Russ just said you could create accounts [19:49:38] --- SecureEndpoints has left [19:50:13] and unfortunately, my cclausen@illinois.edu jabber account can only communicate on-campus [19:50:28] oh, I missed that [19:50:32] I will hafta do that [20:20:51] --- Jeffrey Altman has become available [22:36:46] --- Russ has left: Disconnected