[00:32:26] --- Simon Wilkinson has left [00:44:05] --- Russ has left: Disconnected [00:49:49] --- Simon Wilkinson has become available [00:54:50] --- Simon Wilkinson has left [00:55:23] --- Simon Wilkinson has become available [03:41:37] --- SecureEndpoints has left: Replaced by new connection [03:46:55] --- dev-zero@jabber.org has left: Replaced by new connection [03:46:56] --- dev-zero@jabber.org has become available [07:09:58] --- dev-zero@jabber.org has left [07:26:27] well, we can't really not abandon the linux nfs translator if we aren't allowed to use any interfaces, whether it would be nice to have one or not. [08:25:08] --- mdionne has become available [08:43:39] --- dev-zero@jabber.org has become available [09:17:44] --- Russ has become available [10:51:32] --- matt has become available [11:33:23] --- matt has left [11:52:47] > a linux nfs translator would be really really nice ==rra; you need to run 1.5 [11:54:07] > As I recall, it's even better than the old Solaris one. Possibly. We certainly do a better job on Linux of mapping filehandles back to vnodes, provided you're using an NFS version that allows for large enough filehandles. [11:55:03] You need to run 1.5, with a Linux kernel that hasn't been crippled. [11:55:36] To run it with new Linux kernels, it sounds like you'll need to patch your modprobe is that EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL == EXPORT_SYMBOL [11:55:49] Oh, good grief. What did they break now? [11:56:08] All of the sunrpc symbols have become GPL only. [11:57:00] .. and dalloc_anon has been replaced with dobtain_alias which is GPL only [12:34:33] Argh. All this GPL-only crap is starting to get annoying. It's real tempting to start distributing a kernel patch which eliminates that feature, so people can actually use Linux in the spirit of its license [12:35:19] The danger is that (in the UK at least), I believe that such a patch would count as a circumvention device under our copyright law. [12:35:38] Given that our law is inspired by the DMCA, I wonder if the situation would be the same in the US. [12:38:00] Except... - The license explicitly permits me to modify Linux in that way (in any way) and distribute the result under the same license. - The patch is not designed to allow and does not allow the people using it to do something nthey would not be permitted to do under the license they get. [12:39:29] Particularly, I can combine Linux with any other software I want and use it, and Linux's license does not restrict my right to do so in any way, unless I want to distribute the result. [12:42:23] Anyway, it's not so tempting that I'm going to spend any time on it. As far as I'm concerned, Linux isn't a suitable platform for a translator anyway, because my translator needs to support Sun inetboot. Linux can't do that due to a conflict between Linux's insistence on sending IP fragments in reverse order and the Sun PROM's inability to reassemble fragmented datagrams unless the fragments arrive in order. [12:45:03] (which wouldn't be a problem except that inetboot also insists on using a larger-than-MTU NFS block size) [14:16:00] --- manfred furuholmen has become available [14:58:19] --- manfred furuholmen has left [16:05:12] --- Simon Wilkinson has left [16:29:52] * stevenjenkins growls at himself. [16:44:20] --- mdionne has left [21:36:01] --- dev-zero@jabber.org has left [21:38:51] --- Russ has left: Disconnected [22:43:50] --- dev-zero@jabber.org has become available [23:05:21] --- reuteras has become available [23:54:13] --- manfred furuholmen has become available